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Right after it was announced (and, yes, I mean almost immediately after) that John Malkovitch was signed on to play Vulture in "Spider-Man 4", Sony dropped a bomb by announcing that they were completely rebooting the franchise, scrapping any and all plans for SM4.

Well, fuck. At the moment, I'm so pissed at Marvel, and thinking that Iron Man is not the brave pioneering film for the fledgling film company, but an anomaly that sort of happened independent of them fucking around. I'm even sick of the word 'reboot.' And, get this: supposedly the huge fallout was over trying to force Raimi to put Carnage in the film. Bzuh?! After what happened with Venom they didn't learn their lesson?! Well, there have been rumors of a reboot since before SM4 was announced, so I'm thinking it's just the way the company had wanted to go in the first place. Still, so close. Sighs.

Peace, Ghani

on 2010-01-19 06:40 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] lastwordslinger.livejournal.com
It's a total joke, isn't it? I mean, it hasn't even been that long since the first movie came out! Something like the original Star Trek, that is 40+ years old, I get. But this is just too soon. Either they needed to fix their issues with the current series or just stop for a while until a reboot might actually make sense. I'd rather wait than have them churn out another movie with Spidey fighting the Green Goblin that just leaves me going, "didn't we do this already?" O_O

on 2010-01-19 07:15 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] ghanistarkiller.livejournal.com
And to think, they'd already cast the damned thing! How awesome would Malkovitch have been as Vulture?! And, alas, Curt Connors will never come to Lizard now, at least not poor Dylan Baker, who patiently waited through two movies.

I told Ann that Marvel really just needs to hire some sane fans to tell them to stop fucking around, because I could tell them that all of this is crap. Don't even get me started on Singer returning to X-Men to direct First Class and completely change the premise from comic to screen so it's about Xavier and, sighs, Magneto (again).

And they wonder why Wolverine did well when it was a simple showcase for something they already had that was popular. Morons.

on 2010-01-19 10:46 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ioanite.livejournal.com
Marvel's going nuts over reboots. You think rebooting Spider-man is bad? They're apparently rebooting Fantastic Four as well. The first film came out in 2005. Seriously, Marvel? The films were THAT bad?

Spider-man getting rebooted is a bit more of a shock, though. It seemed pretty stable, even if the third film was weaker than the others. God knows where they're going with this.

on 2010-01-20 12:41 am (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] ghanistarkiller.livejournal.com
Not to mention the reboots of Incredible Hulk (which didn't do nearly as well as the alleged failure of a first one) and the third attempt at a Punisher movie that has already been. Fantastic Four and Ghost Rider are on the horizon and now Spidey falls victim as well. Honestly? I have a theory that now that they have their own movie company they want to reclaim all their properties and produce them themselves, you know?

And, you know, look at Superman Returns: when a franchise is really beloved, sometimes even the passage of time can't really overcome a reboot. Sighs.

Check this out, snerk:

on 2010-01-20 07:19 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] may-child.livejournal.com
OK, this is going to be unpopular, but I have to say that this announcement made me feel a nasty little bit of satisfaction, considering that Raimi has been GOD for the past eight years, and the Spiderman series has been treated as holy and untouchable -- as well as a bludgeon against what I'm a fan of: the Star Wars saga.

I'm also glad to see critics actually say negative things Saint Peter "The Great" Jackson's latest flick, Lovely Bones, considering that criticizing Saint Peter has been a felony punishable by death for almost a decade. I was sure Lovely Bones would sweep every awards ceremony out there, simply by virtue of being directed by Saint Peter. Certainly that got the bloated, pretentious King Kong all kinds of praise, including hypocritical gushings about how it being filmed almost entirely with bluescreen was "revolutionary" and "pushed the boundaries of filmmaking" -- hypocritical since the same people were pissing and moaning about Revenge of the Sith being filmed almost entirely with bluescreen just months before: then it was a sign of "laziness."

Yes, I enjoy seeing untouchable idols get knocked down, especially when those idols have been used as bludgeons against things that I like. Yes, I am just that childish. Sue me.

on 2010-01-20 07:41 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] ghanistarkiller.livejournal.com
Mehehehe, I have to say I like seeing it with Lovely Bones as well, because I really did think he was completely untouchable. Seriously, the stuff I've read about the movie just... what the hell was he even thinking? Was he so full of himself he thought, "I can change everything from a massively popular novel and everyone will still love me! Genius!" It's Golden Globe nominations? The only award nominations it's gonna get because word has hit the street, and that word is crap.

Raimi, I have a bit of a... different connection with because I liked him waaaay back when, when he was just a crappy horror movie director and the whole thing with Spider-Man seems like the enigma to me because I never quite got used to it. It was weird and disturbing to me to see him exalted and I didn't really like the first Spider-Man movie beside. I'm most sorry to see Marvel dicking around with everything, to be honest. Boy did it feel good to see Incredible Hulk tank and now they have a whole line-up of reboots.

I'm a fan of the comics and I'm just fucking sick and tired of being jerked back and forth by a greedy-ass company. That's my real frustration with the situation.

on 2010-01-20 08:25 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] may-child.livejournal.com
Yeah, I can understand. It's like they're jumping on the "reboot" bandwagon because the reboot of Star Trek did so well. Never mind that every other reboot except for Batman has flopped.

I understand Spiderman 3 wasn't terribly good, but that's hardly a reason to scrap Spiderman 4 and start over. I mean, Batman went through a director change and three different actors playing Batman before whomever was ultimately in charge said ENOUGH. Of course, Batman and Robin was so awful that it effectively killed the franchise, so the only alternatives were to let it lie, or reboot. And the reboot didn't happen for a decade.

By the by, I watched Terminator: Salvation the other day, and it was BORING AS HELL. I don't think they should reboot, though. I think they should just let it lie.

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